They always hide their hate towards hybe idols as them "criticising the company" and when you defend the said idols they'll label you as a company stan but I can literally see right through them. I really don't care what they have to say abt bang sihyuk or any of their officials, but it's frustrating how they always drag idols with them. It's not just "hybe is horrible", it's always "hybe is horrible and their artists are manufactured/fake/untalented". Even hybe rookies have to go through massive hate trains over the smallest thing before forming a stable fanbase just because they are under hybe.